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Sunday, July 08, 2007

Warrantless Wiretapping, Part V 

Maxed-Out-Mama observes:

The 6th Circuit knocked down the somewhat hysterical decision about wiretap surveillance by The Most Honorable Defender of the Innocent, Upholder of the Righteous, Supreme Recognizer of the Essence of the Law, The Most Supremely Just Anna Diggs Taylor by ruling that the suing parties lacked standing due to the minor technical difficulty that not one of them actually had any evidence of having been monitored. It was 2-1, and everyone thinks it's going back for another round. Volokh. I am hoping Carl will post on this one later. Ann Althouse did post, and has links to her earlier comments. The Circuit's opinion is here (pdf, 65 pgs). No word on what Taylor is thinking now, but here is her original opinion.I wonder if the usual sides are going to adjust their positions on this one? After all, the doctor's plot makes it clear why monitoring internet and other communications networks is effective and necessary. Right now the program is being run under the auspices of the special FISA court. I do not think they will be turning down many requests.

I always obey Mama, so here's my take on warrantless wiretaps under Friday's Sixth Circuit ruling in the wonderfully captioned case of American Civil Liberties Union v. National Security Agency, No. 06-2095/2140 (6th Cir. July 6, 2007):

Conclusion: Like Maxed-Out-Mama, Jonathan Adler on Volokh says, "I can virtually guarantee that this is not the last we have heard of this case." I'm not so sure the Supreme Court will review--but was surprised by their recent decision to hear challenges to the Military Commissions Act of 2006. In view of the fact that the Administration abandoned the TSP and began seeking FISA warrants, see slip op. at 57 (Gilman, J.), this case should be moot. Especially because on January 10, 2007, "a Judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court issued orders authorizing the government to target for collection international communications into or out of the United States where there is probable cause to believe that one of the communicants is a member or agent of al Qaeda or an associated terrorist organization." Letter from Att’y Gen. Alberto Gonzales to Chair. of the Comm. on the Judiciary Patrick Leahy (Jan. 17, 2007), quoted in slip op. at 4 n.4. That said, the Administration previously, and persuasively, argued that the probable cause standard was overly confining for detecting and preventing terrorism. So I hope Maxed-Out-Mama is correct in assuming the FISA court gets it: "I do not think they will be turning down many requests."

Should the Supremes take the case, I agree with Althouse: "I would expect the Supreme Court to agree with Batchelder and Gibbons." And when they do, we won't be speaking German. But perhaps Al Qaeda will.

Anyway, for the moment, chicks on the bench -- I mean, female Your Honors (Simpsons reference) -- rule.

More:

M_O_M cites the DU thread on the case, containing these two useful idiot comments:

36. [ixion] That is now the third ruling I've heard that used the 'standing' excuse that seems to be the way they intend to do it. Unless you happen to be a republican, you have NO "standing".

37. [EVDebs] The 4th Amendment requires no 'standing' if violated. . . These judges were looking for loopholes and not reading the law itself. I suspect they're Federalist Society cretins. Read this from wikipedia re the Fourth Amendment's requirements, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_Un...

Uh, ixion, standing isn't an excuse--it's a Constitutional requirement, for both Rs and Ds. And Debs, I'd advise against citing Wikipedia. But if you must, read the article first--it says only that criminal defendants have standing to challenge some Fourth Amendment violations. Plaintiffs in this case were not charged with any crime; they were challenging a practice (the TSP) that had never been applied to them and whose secrecy no court could change. So no standing.

Lefties are indignant when conservatives presume most criminal defendants are guilty. Still they constantly claim illegality: the Iraq invasion, the treatment of Gitmo detainees, the use of white phosphorus, etc. Yet, in debate, it becomes clear they're "not reading the law itself" and never checked the facts. How is that progressive?


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4 Comments:

Thank you very much!!! That's what I was looking for.

No, it is not too long.

By Blogger MaxedOutMama, at 11:46 AM  

I find it fascinating that debateable points of law discussing whether one branch of the government has overstepped its authority or is acting within it evoke such apocalyptic visions from the left. (To be quite fair, the right is not immune from this sky-is-falling approach either.)

Where do Greenwald et alia not get that people can disagree with them without undermining the safety of the republic? Why has every dispute got to signal impending Armageddon?

By Blogger Assistant Village Idiot, at 6:25 PM  

Excellent. Great summary and explanation. I did notice this hasn't been reported very much...

By Anonymous powerboss, at 12:42 AM  

Thanks. And, AVI, I wondered the same.

By Blogger Carl, at 9:49 PM  

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