So do you all agree that the Republican party will sabotage this Presidential election and make sure the Democrats win because they know what a disaster they are leaving the incoming administration?
With that strategy the Republicans might be able to win an honest election 4 years from now.
Before the people hit the streets for a noisy, messy revolution, perhaps we should all sit down together and co-create a good government. For example, if you still believe in DEMOCRACY, we could have a direct election and do away with the Electoral College for starters. We can make a legal system that focuses on truth and justice, instead of winning. There are many positive things we can do to make life better and better for everyone. Let's do it.....quickly. Now would be a good time to start.
> Before the people hit the streets for a noisy, messy revolution, perhaps we should all sit down together and co-create a good government. For example, if you still believe in DEMOCRACY, we could have a direct election and do away with the Electoral College for starters. We can make a legal system that focuses on truth and justice, instead of winning. There are many positive things we can do to make life better and better for everyone. Let's do it.....quickly. Now would be a good time to start.
LOL. 1) I don't trust your idea of what qualifies as "good government", since in almost all cases, the government manages to f*** things up. Just look at the current financial mess, which is 85% government f***up -- 65% Dem and 20% GOP. We'd all be a damned sight better off if the government had stayed the F*** out of the mortgage market like it should. Detail, please, where in the U.S. Constitution one finds the "Federal government operated mortgages" clause? *I* would agree that we should reform the government, but with a lot more restrictions on what it is allowed to do, and with some stuff in place to allow a significant minority to UNDO what the majority has done. I've always liked Heinlein's suggestion (The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, IIRC) of two houses -- one passes laws with a 2/3rds majority, one which repeals laws and regulations with a 1/3rd minority. 2) Further justification of the above opinion regarding your ideas for "good government" comes from your failure to grasp that the entire problem right now ties to the selling and repositioning of the USA as a Democracy at all, when we are supposed to be a Republic. The FFs, much smarter and wiser than you (and even me) looked at all the different systems of government and selected a Republic over a democracy for a reason, one which I'm willing to bet you don't get, but which is central to the issues we are now experiencing. 3) Still more justification of that opinion in "1" is your call for the elimination of the Electoral College, which exists for a very specific set of reasons which I'll lay odds you cannot begin to detail out (I can do it, but first I want to see you actually try -- and feel free to offer refutations why they no longer apply). 4) I almost started to agree with you on the legal system part until I reread it and realized that you said "instead of winning", and not "instead of whining". I suspect your ideas of Truth and Justice are just as incompetently formed as the ideas mentioned in "1", "2", and "3". 5) "Before the people hit the streets for a noisy, messy revolution"... Where were you planning to get the guns? LOL. The Red states, they can revolt. The blue states are not properly equipped to do much more than... whining.
In short, while I agree with your call, I doubt if our motivations or goals for it are even vaguely related to one another.
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So do you all agree that the Republican party will sabotage this Presidential election and make sure the Democrats win because they know what a disaster they are leaving the incoming administration?
With that strategy the Republicans might be able to win an honest election 4 years from now.
Before the people hit the streets for a noisy, messy revolution, perhaps we should all sit down together and co-create a good government. For example, if you still believe in DEMOCRACY, we could have a direct election and do away with the Electoral College for starters. We can make a legal system that focuses on truth and justice, instead of winning. There are many positive things we can do to make life better and better for everyone. Let's do it.....quickly. Now would be a good time to start.
> Before the people hit the streets for a noisy, messy revolution, perhaps we should all sit down together and co-create a good government. For example, if you still believe in DEMOCRACY, we could have a direct election and do away with the Electoral College for starters. We can make a legal system that focuses on truth and justice, instead of winning. There are many positive things we can do to make life better and better for everyone. Let's do it.....quickly. Now would be a good time to start.
LOL.
1) I don't trust your idea of what qualifies as "good government", since in almost all cases, the government manages to f*** things up. Just look at the current financial mess, which is 85% government f***up -- 65% Dem and 20% GOP. We'd all be a damned sight better off if the government had stayed the F*** out of the mortgage market like it should. Detail, please, where in the U.S. Constitution one finds the "Federal government operated mortgages" clause? *I* would agree that we should reform the government, but with a lot more restrictions on what it is allowed to do, and with some stuff in place to allow a significant minority to UNDO what the majority has done. I've always liked Heinlein's suggestion (The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, IIRC) of two houses -- one passes laws with a 2/3rds majority, one which repeals laws and regulations with a 1/3rd minority.
2) Further justification of the above opinion regarding your ideas for "good government" comes from your failure to grasp that the entire problem right now ties to the selling and repositioning of the USA as a Democracy at all, when we are supposed to be a Republic. The FFs, much smarter and wiser than you (and even me) looked at all the different systems of government and selected a Republic over a democracy for a reason, one which I'm willing to bet you don't get, but which is central to the issues we are now experiencing.
3) Still more justification of that opinion in "1" is your call for the elimination of the Electoral College, which exists for a very specific set of reasons which I'll lay odds you cannot begin to detail out (I can do it, but first I want to see you actually try -- and feel free to offer refutations why they no longer apply).
4) I almost started to agree with you on the legal system part until I reread it and realized that you said "instead of winning", and not "instead of whining". I suspect your ideas of Truth and Justice are just as incompetently formed as the ideas mentioned in "1", "2", and "3".
5) "Before the people hit the streets for a noisy, messy revolution"... Where were you planning to get the guns? LOL. The Red states, they can revolt. The blue states are not properly equipped to do much more than... whining.
In short, while I agree with your call, I doubt if our motivations or goals for it are even vaguely related to one another.
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