Tuesday, May 13, 2008

No Fact-Checking Required; No Objectivity Necessary

UPDATE: below

On Friday, John McCain correctly called Barack Obama's foreign policy naïve:
Senator Obama continues to say he would sit down and negotiate with the president of Iran who yesterday called the state of Israel a stinking corpse. That’s a dramatic difference between my view of the relations with a state sponsor of terror that is exporting lethal explosive devices into Iraq killing Americans and I would not give them the respect or the ability to enhance their prestige by sitting down and talking to the head of the state sponsor of terrorism who repeats his country’s dedication to the extinction of the state of Israel.
Reporter Larry Rohter defended the Illinois Senator in the next day's New York Times, in part by quoting an Obama advisor:
Susan E. Rice, a former State Department and National Security Council official who is a foreign policy adviser to the Democratic candidate, said that “for political purposes, Senator Obama’s opponents on the right have distorted and reframed” his views. Mr. McCain and his surrogates have repeatedly stated that Mr. Obama would be willing to meet “unconditionally” with Mr. Ahmadinejad. But Dr. Rice said that this was not the case for Iran or any other so-called “rogue” state. Mr. Obama believes “that engagement at the presidential level, at the appropriate time and with the appropriate preparation, can be used to leverage the change we need,” Dr. Rice said. “But nobody said he would initiate contacts at the presidential level; that requires due preparation and advance work.”
The Times' defense is nonsense, as both the campaign and newspaper know or should have known. Look no further than Obama's own website:
Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions.
The candidate said the same when interviewed by--wait for it!--the New York Times:
Senator Barack Obama said he would “engage in aggressive personal diplomacy” with Iran if elected president, and would offer economic inducements and a possible promise not to seek “regime change” if Iran stopped meddling in Iraq and cooperated on terrorism and nuclear issues. . .

Making clear that he planned to talk to Iran without preconditions, Mr. Obama emphasized further that “changes in behavior” by Iran could possibly be rewarded with membership in the World Trade Organization, other economic benefits and security guarantees.
The Senator's plainly proud of this position--he touted it during the July 23, 2007, Democrat debate:
QUESTION: In 1982, Anwar Sadat traveled to Israel, a trip that resulted in a peace agreement that has lasted ever since.

In the spirit of that type of bold leadership, would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries? . . .

OBAMA: I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them -- which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration -- is ridiculous.
I'm aware the media quit fact-checking lefty pronouncements years ago. But how tough would it have been for Larry Rohter to dig-out the paper's past editions? Or, as Wolf Howling suggests, search on Google? Simple--for anyone but Rohter. Couldn't another NYT editor, assistant or flunky do the research? No need when publishing--as Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs sees it--a partisan "advocacy piece."

Which covers nearly every print article and electronic story. Electing Democrats is the mainstream media's full-time job. Even in service of Obama's naïve and dangerous foreign policy.

MORE:

Mark Levin on National Review Online:
Inquiring Minds Want to Know

Well, Senator Obama, would you have met with Adolph Hitler in 1939? Based on your stated policy, I think you would have. If not, how do you differentiate that situation with your stated position that you would meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea without preconditions (July 2007)? And in your statement today, responding to President Bush's brilliant speech in Israel (which was apparently not directed at you, but you assumed it was), you did what you've done in the past, i.e., claim past presidents share your unique view of diplomacy. But the question remains, would you have met with Hitler in 1939 — without preconditions?
(via Wolf Howling)

5 comments:

OBloodyHell said...

> Mr. Obama believes “that engagement at the presidential level, at the appropriate time and with the appropriate preparation, can be used to leverage the change we need,”

Ah, what's that phrase again?

Oh, yeah: "Peace in our time"

P.S. -- why is she "Dr. Rice", but the other Dr. Rice is a mere pickaninny?

Just wondering...

Assistant Village Idiot said...

I have decided the phrase "right wing attack machine" is synonymous with "researched observation."

Anonymous said...

Hillary Clinton is far more qualified to be President of the United States than Barak Obama. In all those years of devotion to Wright, he never heard what the man was saying. Therefore, he is unlikely to hear what the American people are saying. Maybe he just listens to himself and his wife who decides she likes America when it supports her, but not otherwise.

HILLARY CLINTON WON DECISIVELY IN WEST VIRGINIA: a simple, relevant fact. Furthermore, she is more prepared to be a President of all the people and she listens and hears WE THE PEOPLE.

OBloodyHell said...

> HILLARY CLINTON WON DECISIVELY IN WEST VIRGINIA: a simple, relevant fact.

Naw. Don't you listen to Chris Matthews? WVa Democrats are all a bunch of racist pr**ks. (Actually, all Democrats are racist pr**ks, but that would be digressing).

> Furthermore, she is more prepared to be a President of all the people and she listens and hears WE THE PEOPLE.

Geez, the number of examples available for refuting this are legion. Hillary is like her husband, a two-bit demagogue willing to say or do ANYTHING to get elected. After she gets elected, she does whatever she damnwell pleases and f*** her constituents.

When she was running for re-election in 2006 she SWORE to the NY voters that she was NOT going to abandon the office and run for president in 2008. There were actually large numbers of idiots in NY who believed her, which says a lot about the intelligence level of the NY voter. I can see why the Kennedys ran from there, too.

Those rubes must be dumber than the worst Kansas hick or Tennessee bumpkin.

Anonymous said...

obloddyhell, would you rather have the results Bill Clinton achieved or the results either of the George Bushes achieved. I wonder how you feel about your mother. Lots of people are unaware of their sexist prejudices; misogynists, for example, frequently think they really "love" women. By any objective standard, Hillary is the best candidate for President. May your fear of strong, successful women dissolve.