tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post8586435778374047976..comments2023-12-05T07:50:19.855-05:00Comments on No Oil for Pacifists: Chart of the Day@nooil4pacifistshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16688417615117569825noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-20049875349711979972009-09-23T19:07:53.952-04:002009-09-23T19:07:53.952-04:00OBH is right that GDP excludes government income t...OBH is right that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product#Components_of_GDP" rel="nofollow">GDP excludes government income transfer payments</a> (such as welfare or pensions). But it <i>does</i> include other government spending, such as when the government supplies goods or services (think healthcare). So, the comparison may not be as inapt as OBH suggests.@nooil4pacifistshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688417615117569825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-9676264261246308072009-09-21T05:09:10.501-04:002009-09-21T05:09:10.501-04:00> However, factoring in living space, food vari...> However, factoring in living space, food variety, etc....<br /><br />Yeah, but that just makes the point even more.<br /><br />Kinda like comparing Euro infant mortality to US IM -- when the concept of a "born infant" is different for the purpose of data collection, the two have about as much in common as Green Jobs have in common with Real Jobs.OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-32175500858681987672009-09-19T21:42:23.538-04:002009-09-19T21:42:23.538-04:00Non EU countries such as Norway and Switzerland do...Non EU countries such as Norway and Switzerland do better. Which actually, is a similar lesson, isn't it?<br /><br />OBH, I half agree. There <i>is</i> a bit of apples and oranges going on. Government services in Europe would raise their numbers a bit. However, factoring in living space, food variety, etc. might push US numbers up as well. Even in Mississippi.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-76316701118249948842009-09-19T02:39:41.920-04:002009-09-19T02:39:41.920-04:00I do concur that there are issues to the situation...I do concur that there are issues to the situation that this analysis does not cover -- it does not, I believe, factor in the value of the government services which are common in the relevant Euro states. If those are factored in as a part of their "incomes", then their per capita income is above its listed value.<br /><br />I believe the people in question could get much better bang for their buck than they are getting from their national governments -- but -- they probably only rank, not at the bottom but in <i>the bottom 25% of US states</i>... that's my guess.<br /><br />:oDOBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.com