tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post478337882959119348..comments2023-12-05T07:50:19.855-05:00Comments on No Oil for Pacifists: There Are Three Types of People: Those Who Can Do Math, And Those Who Can't@nooil4pacifistshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16688417615117569825noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-2746486516641076092008-04-27T01:29:00.000-04:002008-04-27T01:29:00.000-04:00AVI & OBH:Agreed.GW:Thanks.AVI & OBH:<BR/><BR/>Agreed.<BR/><BR/>GW:<BR/><BR/>Thanks.@nooil4pacifistshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688417615117569825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-16414981061210230062008-04-25T17:44:00.000-04:002008-04-25T17:44:00.000-04:00Good post. Linked.Good post. Linked.GWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05814327154035433443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-18711399755824522042008-04-25T17:25:00.000-04:002008-04-25T17:25:00.000-04:00Hey, I resemble that remark:At least the headline!...<B>Hey, I resemble that remark:</B><BR/>At least the headline!Cappyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06296544117356338654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-1494826401989457762008-04-25T16:38:00.000-04:002008-04-25T16:38:00.000-04:00Anony:I think the reporter mislabeled the annual n...Anony:<BR/><BR/>I think the reporter mislabeled the <I>annual</I> number of suicides as the number per <I>week</I>, or confused the figure with suicide <I>attempts</I>. Your suggestion seems inconsistent with these sources: Ex military (and sometimes reporter and blogger) <A HREF="http://www.fumento.com/military/suicide.html" REL="nofollow">Mike Fumento</A> (which I cited); <A HREF="http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2007/11/16/department-of-apples-and-oranges.aspx" REL="nofollow">Michelle Cottie's aside in the <EM>New Republic</EM> last summer</A> (which I haven't previously linked to); and <A HREF="http://www.democracy-project.com/archives/002044.html" REL="nofollow">Bruce Kesler's 2005 analysis of a similar, earlier claim</A> (ditto).@nooil4pacifistshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688417615117569825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-70306118622177093042008-04-24T22:49:00.000-04:002008-04-24T22:49:00.000-04:00You can always recognize a liberal: They're the on...You can always recognize a liberal: <BR/><BR/>They're the ones who never learned how to rub two facts together to start a clue.<BR/><BR/>:o)OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-69389699110811159622008-04-24T19:25:00.000-04:002008-04-24T19:25:00.000-04:00Suicides by all vets of all wars still wouldn't re...Suicides by all vets of all wars still wouldn't reach that number, I don't think.<BR/><BR/>I work with war PTSD clients some, though the VA has most of that, of course. I haven't seen much recently. Mild to moderate symptoms of PTSD are common but transitory. Residual symptoms, such as nightmares, can persist for years. Incapacitating PTSD is pretty rare.<BR/><BR/>Rule of thumb: anyone returning from Iraq can expect to have initial adjustment problems, moving from a place of hyperalertness, no room for error, and the realization of how much evil human beings are capable of, to a place where people move freely, and gas prices are considered a tragedy.<BR/><BR/>In terms of history, what the vets have seen is the normality - our comfortable lives are the temporary illusi9on.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-46900125856992726802008-04-24T09:04:00.000-04:002008-04-24T09:04:00.000-04:00I agree with your criticism, but with one signific...I agree with your criticism, but with one significant caveat. <BR/><BR/>The article might be "equivocating" the definitions of covered veterans as well as the covered periods. The 120 per week reference might be to recent (perhaps increased) figures for vets that are serving or have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. The other might be to all vets in the last months of 2007. Thus, the math error might be your own because of the equivocation.<BR/><BR/>Regardless, this issue is a concern that has often been under-estimated or, worse, ignored. We should and we MUST do much more than we are for our troops . . . and their families, whether they served yesterday or last year or, frankly, any time during their lives. Some suicides may occur many, many years after the precipitating trauma. And let's not forget that these figures do not include suicides by spouses, children, parents or even the friends of our vets that have fallen, whether fatally or psychologically.<BR/><BR/><BR/>-CogitoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com