tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post4651146905913967020..comments2023-12-05T07:50:19.855-05:00Comments on No Oil for Pacifists: The Wind Doesn't Answer@nooil4pacifistshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16688417615117569825noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-32969237908998589812010-03-14T21:25:11.286-04:002010-03-14T21:25:11.286-04:00> Thai: I love it! Made my day--thanks.
Withou...> Thai: I love it! Made my day--thanks.<br /><br />Without reading the paper in question, I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that the amount of energy taken from the wind by turbines adds up to anything even vaguely relevant to Global or even Regional Climate. <br /><br />It's dispersed across too large an area, and represents too small a percentage of the total energy in wind.<br /><br />That's not inconsistent with the argument that wind power sucks, it's fully consistent with it, in fact. <br /><br />As a power source it's just too spread out, too dispersed (more critically too <i>randomly</i> dispersed) to effectively collect using point-source mechanisms like turbines. <br /><br />The argument isn't that there isn't a lot of energy stored up globally in wind, there's <b>a huge amount</b> -- just consider any hurricane -- it's that the energy <i>differential</i> (which is basically how ALL electricity gets generated using current technologies), is too small to use consistently, cost-effectively, and reliably by any existing known techniques.OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-13235490494959109852010-03-14T01:47:07.730-05:002010-03-14T01:47:07.730-05:00Thai: I love it! Made my day--thanks.Thai: I love it! Made my day--thanks.@nooil4pacifistshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16688417615117569825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-23813845271052391502010-03-13T23:08:29.777-05:002010-03-13T23:08:29.777-05:00I am not sure why I want to give you this freebie ...I am not sure why I want to give you <a href="http://nextbigfuture.com/2010/03/mit-researchers-say-using-wind-turbines.html" rel="nofollow">this freebie</a> but it did bring a chuckle and I thought you might too.Thaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700253024420397221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-68845130110340991522010-03-12T16:24:03.266-05:002010-03-12T16:24:03.266-05:00> I am not sure enough about the technicals of ...> <i>I am not sure enough about the technicals of this kind of thing to intelligently comment but it is clear that smart minds people are working on the problem.</i><br /><br />Yes, the "smart minds people" have also been working seriously on the problem of fusion for between 40 and 50 years now. They still haven't managed to make it to breakeven<b>*</b>, much less get something even vaguely commercially reliable on any scale.<br /><br />What else have the "smart minds" people been working on? Cancer, The Common Cold... While they've made some individual inroads into cancer, they haven't made much progress into the Common Cold at all.<br /><br />Wind power is a ludicrous idea, because it's based on a form of energy which is highly variable and poorly concentrated -- its level of dispersion requires a large, widely disparate set of "collectors" (i.e., turbines in all current schema) which create a nightmare for usage and application.<br /><br /><a href="http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/wind-power-is-no-solution-to-anything-a-guest-weblog-by-henk-tennekes/" rel="nofollow">“Wind power Is No Solution To Anything”</a><br /><br /><a href="http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/11847.html" rel="nofollow">Why Alternative Power Is and Will Remain Useless</a><br /><br /><br />More general on wind power:<br /><a href="http://www.nofreewind.com/" rel="nofollow">NoFreeWind</a><br /><br />The "smart minds people" can't overcome the laws of physics with sleight of hand. Throwing more minds at Wind Power is as stupid as I've already demonstrated regarding solar. <br /><br />It ain't gonna work. EVER.<br /><br /><br />====-----==================================<br /><b>*</b> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawson_criterion" rel="nofollow">The Lawson Criterion</a>, which is where you get more energy back out of it, even for a brief instance, than you're putting in...OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-47852001521992615702010-03-12T16:24:03.267-05:002010-03-12T16:24:03.267-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.OBloodyHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992539380115488567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6427940.post-83253949215726301182010-03-12T07:37:45.871-05:002010-03-12T07:37:45.871-05:00FYI.
I am not sure enough about the technicals of...<a href="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/03/compressed-air-plants/" rel="nofollow">FYI</a>.<br /><br />I am not sure enough about the technicals of this kind of thing to intelligently comment but it is clear that smart minds people are working on the problem.Thaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700253024420397221noreply@blogger.com